Viacom Denies Seeking YouTube User Data in Lawsuit

Authored by Mark Hefflinger on July 14, 2008 - 11:12am.

New York - Media conglomerate Viacom (NYSE: VIA) has issued a statement claiming that it "has not asked for and will not be obtaining any personally identifiable information of any YouTube user" in the course of its $1 billion copyright infringement lawsuit against the site.

However, as Groklaw and others have reported, the judge in the case has indicated in court documents that Viacom did indeed seek such information from YouTube (NASD: GOOG), including its "Logging" database, which "contains, for each instance a video is watched, the unique 'login ID' of the user who watched it, the time when the user started to watch the video, the internet protocol address other devices connected to the internet use to identify the user's computer ('IP address'), and the identifier for the video."

Viacom added in its statement that the "personally identifiable information that YouTube collects from its users will be stripped from the data before it is transferred to Viacom," and that the company "will use the data exclusively for the purpose of proving our case against You Tube and Google."

But NewTeeVee pointed out that a YouTube blog post last week notes that, although the judge agreed to make YouTube hand over personally identifiable user data, per Viacom's request, "our lawyers have asked their lawyers to let us remove that information before we hand over the data they're seeking."

 

Related Links:
http://snipurl.com/2ykpf (Viacom statement)

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080709044510241

http://snipurl.com/2ykpm (NewTeeVee)

http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=Gh2N9xyKK8k

Comments

Viacom's

Let's not make too much of this supposed difference with the court order -- Viacom and Google agree that IP addresses are not personally identifiable information and no real argument was made in front of the judge regarding userids, which are generally also not identified to a person. As described in the opinion, Viacom wants (and was entitled to) logs that show how attractive copyrighted content is. It would be illegal for it to use this information for any other reason than pursuing its case against YouTube - it will not have spies looking at what millions of people watch and could never sue end users using this information. However, when it was pointed out that some people use their real names as user IDs - Viacom said it would be satisfied if arbitrary numbers were substituted for real user IDs. Viacom also said it would be satisfied if the real IP addresses were also subject to substitution. There is no mystery here and no dishonesty.

IP addresses aren't usable

IP addresses aren't usable to identify a user? Has anyone informed the RIAA that all of their lawsuits are without merit?

Don't be naive, an IP address with a time/date and anyone can find out who the ISP account belongs to with a subpoena.

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